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We need a general MLM related forum in Yahoo Group to response MLM related topic. What you think,?

Hello, We all know (hopefully at least agree) that MLM, Network Marketing, Referral Marketing, Word-of-Mouth Business, Affiliate Marketing is one of the most misunderstood industry in US. Since there are so many positive and negative comments in Yahoo Answer, I personally think we need to address these topics in certain Yahoo Group. I am planning to open one Yahoo Group to address MLM related topic. I do not know what you guys think. The people who are involve in the industry know that our industry is not so reputed and respected. Most of the reason is Hype and Lies. However there are good companies and certainly good products. My main goal is to introduce Network Marketing in a form that people understand the business and respect it. Most anti-mlmer hate this industry due to the misconception. I need every bodies help (People who are favor of MLM), we all know we can share the greatness of MLM and let people know the true face of the business.

Public Comments

  1. MLM's are 99% scam-related crap. So yes, please, go find somewhere else to discuss it, so I don't have to hear about them anymore!
  2. whoa somebody has an attitude. as for mlm group sounds good to me . worked 8 years now with a solid client and customer base, along with associate who are earning extra money yearly.
  3. I am curious what misconceptions you think are out there? I don't hate MLM by any means, I just have found too many questions go unanswered, such as: Why can't any MLMer ever prove/show/explain what percentage of sales the parent company does to people that are not reps themselves. I would want to know that there is a very large sample of unbiased customers buying the products. You would think this information would be easy to get, but it never is except for the public MLM companies which have all shown that a significantly high percentage of sales is to reps. Why are nearly all MLM compensation plans focused on recruiting as oppose to sales...essentially meaning you have to recruit other people to get to the top level. If MLM companies want to shed the image of being a ponzi scheme you would think they would give a much bigger incentive for a lot of reps to just make a living doing personal sales. If its so easy to expand exponentially recruiting people, why don't you hear of a large number of people having millions of people in their downline, and why aren't those millions expanding exponentially as well (or at least doubling annually). Even if the greatest MLMers of all time started a 2x2 where everyone only recruited 2 people every 6 months (far less than what they say anyone can do) then those people would have over 1 million in their downlines within 10 years. You never hear of anyone doing this well. If so many people are making so much money in MLM (I assume some are) why is no one willing to share their tax statements as evidence of MLM commissions? When I sell a restaurant, a gas station, an apartment building, or any business where I use its historical performance as a selling point (such as reporting how profitable it has been for the last year), it is normal during due diligence to verify all my claims. If MLM is a business, why will no one ever verify the claims of income? There are plenty more, but this is the basic stuff that MLMers tend to never answer and instead jump to conclusions about me for asking. I am a business person, and in the business world those types of questions are quite reasonable. The fact that no one in MLM ever addresses them perhaps is a better explanation why MLM has generally a very poor reputation.
  4. Soon you will have Mexico4hire jumping in and accusing us of being the same person. He/she is right. No two people could ever be against mlm. Marcello you are right though.... mlm people claim all this money they are making, but refuse to prove it.
  5. I think it's a great idea! I'm a successful Network Marketer and I am eternally greatful that someone introduced me to this business. My first venture was a losing one and my second choice was a great one. Please go for an MLM Forum about the benefits of Network Marketing. Have a Q and A for the most common misconceptions. Have an archive of success stories without advertising what the name and or product or service is... that way it remains neutral and will help the industry. I'm all for it! I feel very strongly that there has to be the "right" information about Network Marketing/MLM so that people will put their intellectual seat belt on and see the truth. One person commented that Network Marketing makes more money off of the recruitment of people than sales. That's an economic impossibility. If one studies how a Network Marketing company works from informed Economic Professors who in no way are involved in Network Marketing, they would know that the norm in network marketing is your residual customer base. It's sales. Network Marketers educate about their product or service to customers with a product or service that is in demand. You could be the best vinyl record producer in the world and you aren't going to make good money if it's obsolete and you certainly wouldn't survive off of recruitment. Same thing with Network Marketing. The conclusions that most of the money is based on recruitment is because of MLM Pyramid Schemes, whereby you make most of your money through recruiting. Unfortunately this scam has been transposed by the uninformed to project it onto a legitamate Network Marketing business. Pyramid Schemes that make money off of recruitment dispand before they are caught or if they are, people end up in jail. Another mis-conception is why don't they share how much money they make? If you understand leverage in a compensation plan, it is an equal playing field for all involved who work their business. What I make should not influence what someone else can make... I have someone in my downline right now making more money that I am! Also, in Network Marketing, compaired to corporations, are the only companies subject to revealing the average incomes of their associate base by law. If you want to see the average income of the entire associate base of that company, you ask for the statement. You will get the 2006 statement. There is nothing to hide. For example, if I am raising a new business builder, revealing how much that individual makes before they make it means that the person does not understand leverage to think it really matters in the beginning of one's business. What matters is the compensation plan and treating it like a business to reach your financial goal. This isn't about nickle and diming, it's about a well mapped out financial plan. An MLM company cannot become publicly traded based on recruitment and not consistant residual orders from customers... and consitant residual orders do not take place from a product that does not make one's life better, it has to work to create residual income. The customer must be satisfied. A recommendation is to view the Video called "Brilliant Compensation" in order to understand Network Marketing. It's located at BrilliantExchange.com
  6. Laura J's answer is riddled with classical MLM issues. She comes across as a nice person so people want to believe her and maybe even sign up with her, this hardly makes what she states as fact. Let's address: She states the economic impossibility of making more money off of recruiting than sales. She evidently is not as educated on MLM as she professes because I can attest first hand that there are MLM companies who charge exurbanite fees to join and then offer bonuses to the reps when they sign people up. The image that its about product sales is given but the reality is its quite possible (and quite common) than one pays several hundred dollars to sign up and earns thousands merely by the bonuses for signing others up without regard to the product. As far as the economy of it all, well, in reference to the head company even if they make little or no money on the training materials that are given back as bonuses, they still stand to only gain from having the network grow as even a tiny portion of sales from each rep is a gain to them. So DO NOT be swindled by such statements as "economic impossibility" that people in MLM like to throw around to thwart you from the actual truth. She states further that a study of Network Marketing shows that its about sales. This of course is mere rhetoric since even a simple investigation into the largest public MLM companies show that the average sales per rep are less than $100/year. Look it up on yahoo finance as all the data is there. If it was about sales as oppose to recruiting, this would not be so despicable. The fact that the head company stands to gain no matter if the rep does sales or recruits a number of people would make most people cringe if they would ACTUALLY do an investigation into the numbers. As far as the product being in demand, this again is merely propaganda used to convince people to sign up. If the products were in such high demand, why are they only being sold through reps? Wouldn't it be logical for the company to offer the products on its own? It is very true that you will not make sales selling vinyl records, but you can bet if you asked the countless people with garages full of MLM product they never sold that vinyl records are hardly the only thing that can't sell. Not to mention, considering how MLM is set up, there is chance that you could sell vinyl records because the reps joining would be the best customers buying it in droves selling the dream. Yes, I am being facetious, but the point is clear. She also states that leverage is the reason that they don't share how much money is being made. At this point, I really have to wonder if anyone could possibly be so easily fooled by such a line. The fact that high incomes are used to draw people into MLM. The fact is that people never are willing to prove the high incomes they used to draw people into MLM. You can call it leverage or whatever you want, but if you are going to use high incomes as a draw but can't back it up, then you are a fraud. The fact that it is an equal playing field has no bearing on the above. No one is debating whether people in MLM have the equality of opportunity to achieve the same thing. The fact that she would use this to answer the question regarding proving incomes is nothing but a bait and switch, where she answers a question we all agree on and tried to imply that she answered the question she had no real answer for. It is this very style of used car salesman mentality that makes MLM so dangerous because the average person doesn't recognize this type of swindle. She states, "what I make should not influence what someone else can make". Yes, but when you use what you make to influence someone joining, you should be able to verify that unless you are lying and a fraud. As far as MLM companies not going public on recruitment, perhaps again a simple investigation into the public issues with Amway would be nice. The average Amway rep sells far less than $100/year in sales. Yes, Amway itself has made billions, but its plain and simple that it is by merely having countless reps recruit other countless reps all selling the bear minimum on average. Amway does well with this, the reps do not unless you believe the commission on $100 annual is good money. So either this public company is made up of reps making about 1 hour of minimum wage work a year in incomes, or they are making money on things other than sales. Either way, the company was able to successful go public without its reps doing large amounts of sales. As they say, the proof is in the pudding. I would imagine being the owner of the parent company is a great way to make money as long as you can sleep at night knowing you are screwing people to make your money. It would be nice if someone who argues for MLM would actually be able to back up the statements they say for once and actually answer the questions posed to them without redirecting to other topics, but I suppose when you have an entire industry that is complete fluff you can't expect any better.
  7. Great idea, we really need something like that
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